Unrecorded Phantom Gems

These ones too, they are basically the same sets but I'm not sure whether the cover design is different. The inner box is completely different.



It seems that they share the same box cover. However the change of generation in Red White Hikari-Go and the slope rails in the sets have set an assumption that:
1. The sets are reprinted.
2. It is a completely different set in the early 1960s and late 1960s.
3. It has a different box cover art.
However we are not able to confirm point 3. It seems that the set itself have different generations, because the TP-nn numbering systems are DIFFERENT from the previous set compared to new set. How we know that the TP-nn numbering system is different without the box cover? Its because the same TP-nn number has not been found on the 1st and 2nd generation Red White Hikari-Go 3 car sets (they have different numbers). The set is not reprinted, but point 2 is correct so far. The very possible reason why the interior box change:
1. To fit the newer contents better.
2. Produced from a different plant.
3. TOMIYAMA change name to TOMY in 1963, therefore blueprints of newer sets might have been slightly altered.

We mentioned a blue box D-51, brown box D-51. Now there is a new one that surfaced just today, D-51 Yellow Box. All are 4th generation, which I repeat, is the hardest to obtain of all 10 generations today as they are only manufactured for only 2 years, if not 3 years depending on the model. This one could be close to 3 years.

Wow, now that is a box design I have never seen, great find.

Orange piers without claws.
On the left, we have number 24. On the right, no number.
The unnumbered version is what I recently bought, but it wasn't in the Plarail Museum. So I will add it here.

Blue D-51 Kisha Set, that is the first time I have seen one. Not recorded in museum so far, it seems it was manufactured from 1970-1974. Lets include that here.

Wow, that is a beautiful set. Would have been perfect if it had a blue Tender but still, I love those old box graphics.

A tender did not exist for a D-51 at that time though. There is one for C-58.

Have we discussed a Blue C-58 with Tender before? Seems familiar but I can't locate where the discussion and/or pictures are.

Blue C-58 does not exist. A Blue D-51 of course exists, discussed in https://blueplastictracks.com/showthread...8#pid47358

(06-02-2020, 07:15 AM)Vio Wrote: A tender did not exist for a D-51 at that time though. There is one for C-58.

My mistake...I thought you were referring to a C-58 blue train above when we talked about the blue D-51 Kisha set.

So there hasn't been a blue Tender ever for any Steam train right?